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Detlef Sping:
Have you gone insane Queenie?
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 3:49:17 pm)

Detlef Sping:

just a bit?
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 3:50:00 pm)

bela:
It looks intentional. Whatever, I didn't see it, I haven't heard anything about it. They didn't say anything on NY1 this morning anyway. Oh well.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 3:50:23 pm)

Queenie:
dammit, I just heard a story about a guy who named his new baby "Version 2.0", which is an idea I had a couple of years ago and had planned on using in some way or another.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 3:54:07 pm)

bela:
What a jerkoff.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 3:54:55 pm)

Chewing Wax:
That's the big damned deal?
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:10:07 pm)

Chewing Wax:
This country has to get out more.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:10:33 pm)

bela:
REally, look at that poor girl that was killed on a Con Ed plate walking her dogs in front of Veneiros. That really sucked. Lawsuit?
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:14:23 pm)

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"Like millions of Americans, my family and I gathered around the television for a celebration," FCC Chairman Michael Powell said in a statement. "Instead, that celebration was tainted by a classless, crass and deplorable stunt. Our nation's children, parents and citizens deserve better.

"I have instructed the commission to open an immediate investigation into last night's broadcast. Our investigation will be thorough and swift."

(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:15:14 pm)

Chewing Wax:
It reminds me of the nipple debate about the Solid Gold Dancers in Scrooged.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:23:37 pm)

:
momma momma here comes DOctor Dark
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:28:44 pm)

Queenie:
"LIke millions of Americans, my family and I gathered around the television to watch sweaty, scantily-clad girls waving pop-poms and shaking their asses. Instead, it was tainted by a classless, crass, and deplorable display of sweaty, scantily clad.... uh...wait a minute..."
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:48:27 pm)

Queenie:
heh, wax.... "They can't see a nipple! And these guys are really looking!"
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:50:13 pm)

Queenie:
I've been invited to show my recent short film at a Troma festival. Woo hoo!
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:53:05 pm)

bela:
That sounds fun.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:53:26 pm)

Queenie:
I think Ken is going to take this job. It's so insane. It's on a mississippi riverboat that travels from New Orleans to Baton Rouge, and he'll be making really good money doing it, comparable to what he makes now. But he'll be gone for six weeks at a time. He'd have so much fun, though.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:58:03 pm)

Chewing Wax:
Oh. He'll have fun alright.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 4:58:38 pm)

Chewing Wax:
Yep. The Red Stick. The Big Easy. Ahhh,
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 5:01:59 pm)

Queenie:
i've always wanted to go there.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 5:11:54 pm)

Decoy:
Maybe we can give the al Qedra some "intelligence" on the Jacksons. You know, just to see if they pass moral muster. And I not suprised the Queenie doesn't get it that I don't want to explain the phrase "disgusting pig-slut" to my kids - because that's what I call that behavior. Boobs are fine, I'm just trying to impart a sense of self image that doesn't recognize cheap exhibitionism as a way to get attention in life. And a self image that is in line with my family's cultural norms. Adults don't care about a 47 year old skank tit, but the kids think that's mainstream behavior unless we tell them different. And now the shame is that, and look at the media today and this lounge and think that we are all stupider today for having seen that.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 5:15:25 pm)

Decoy:
Oh and its true, I remember Queenie saying something about that version 2.0 thing. I'll testify.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 5:17:04 pm)

Queenie:
How are cheerleaders not cheap exhibitionism? It's a perplexing and arbitrary line drawn there. If anything, the blatant attempt to manipulate american media irritates the shit out of me, and even more than that... the fact that it WORKED, and here I am talking about it like a goddamn bunny. grr.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 5:20:40 pm)

Queenie:
my friend said that everyone was so offended by a heterosexual display in the middle of an otherwise sweaty man-love "sport". heh.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 5:21:36 pm)

:
heh.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 5:49:34 pm)

Myk Murphy:
i'm glad that mtv returned the super bowl halftime show to its normal shitty state after a successful show last year. no doubt and sting punked out and didn't lip synch. shania sucked, but she sang quickly and then got out of the way.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 6:36:43 pm)

Decoy:
I wish the world was more about quality. This wine has a quality. Heh.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 7:33:00 pm)

Heruka:
offended? no. digusted at such a cheap ploy for attention, yes. of course this was staged.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 7:43:17 pm)

Heruka:
No timeline offered; Palestinians scorn evacuation proposal

JERUSALEM Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel said Monday that he might seek to evacuate almost all Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip, outraging members of the settlement movement he championed for decades.
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“I am working on the assumption that in the future there will be no Jews in Gaza,” Sharon told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
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He made similar though less sweeping comments in what participants described as a very tense meeting of legislators from his dominant faction, Likud.
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Sharon said he had given orders to plan for the evacuation of 17 of 21 Gaza settlements. But his spokesman, Ranaan Gissin, cautioned that that was one of several options that Sharon was preparing to eventually submit for the approval of his cabinet.
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“It may be less settlements that have to be evacuated,” Gissin said. “We have to prepare for an interim plan that will maximize security for our citizens and minimize friction with the Palestinians.”
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It was Sharon's most specific disclosure to date of what he envisions as “unilateral disengagement” from the Palestinians, a step he has said he will pursue if he judges that the Bush administration's peace initiative, the road map, has failed. Sharon set no timeline for any withdrawal, and his opponents on the right and his skeptics on the left were quick to accuse him of posturing to divert public attention from a bribery investigation. Sharon has not been charged. Although settlers warned of political action to bring down Sharon's government, far-right parties did not immediately bolt his governing coalition, an indication they did not consider action against settlements to be imminent or inevitable. Palestinian officials suggested the announcement might amount to public relations.
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Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian leader, reacted with scorn, saying that Sharon was referring only to removing 17 settlements.
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“What, so they can replace them with another 170?” he asked. Over the last 18 months, Sharon has made a series of statements that have alarmed longtime allies on the right, accepting the idea of an eventual Palestinian state, criticizing Israel's “occupation” and, most recently, saying that he intended to remove isolated settlements. During that period, on the ground, settlements continued to expand.
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But Sharon warned the Likud faction that Israel must now prepare for the possible failure of the road map. “He spoke about a situation in which it will become evident that the road map is dying,” said Yuval Steinitz, a Likud member of Parliament.
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Steinitz said that Sharon would seek the support of the United States and major European states and that he made clear he did not plan a similar withdrawal from the West Bank.
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Sharon told Haaretz, “It is my intention to carry out an evacuation - sorry, a relocation - of settlements that cause us problems and of places that we will not hold on to anyway in a final settlements, like the Gaza settlements.”
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Eran Sternberg, a spokesman for the Gush Qatif settlement bloc in Gaza, said, “We are quite sorry for these miserable declarations of Sharon, which probably come from the pressure of the investigations.”
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He promised a “tough struggle” against Sharon, and like other settler leaders warned that a unilateral Israeli withdrawal would embolden terrorists.
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“Today, Gush Qatif is the finger in the dike that blocks terrorists from flooding the world,” he said. Gaza, which is bracketed against the Mediterranean Sea by a closely guarded Israeli fence, is about seven miles wide and 25 miles long. It is home to7,500 Israeli settlers and more than 1.2 million Palestinians. In the West Bank, about 230,000 settlers live in 125 settlements. Within Israel, there is broad support for evacuating the Gaza settlements, which are widely seen as extremist redoubts that drain Israel's resources and needlessly endanger its soldiers.
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Most Gaza settlers argue that that territory is part of Jews' Biblical birthright. But though he has long made common cause with religious settlers, Sharon came to the settlement movement from a different perspective, focusing on Israel's modern security needs more than its ancient claims.
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In April 2002, referring to Netzarim, one of the most isolated Gaza settlements, he said, “The fate of Netzarim is the fate of Tel Aviv.” But his remarks to Haaretz and to Likud suggested that he now viewed the Gaza settlements as creating problems.
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The road map envisions a Palestinian state by 2005 in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, which Israel occupied in the Six-Day War of 1967.
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But seven months after Bush announced the plan, neither side has taken much action.
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As a first step, Israel is supposed to dismantle dozens of “outposts” set up by settlers in the West Bank, while the governing Palestinian Authority is supposed to begin breaking apart militant groups.
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Although Israel has removed a few of the outposts, almost all were swiftly rebuilt. Evacuating fortified communities of red-roofed homes like the Gaza settlements would be much more difficult.
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Settlers have long regarded Sharon with suspicion because he oversaw the evacuation of settlements in the Sinai Desert after Israel reached a peace agreement with Egypt.
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Sharon said Monday that he would evacuate Gaza settlements only after reaching an agreement with their residents.
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The New York Times No timeline offered; Palestinians scorn evacuation proposal

JERUSALEM Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel said Monday that he might seek to evacuate almost all Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip, outraging members of the settlement movement he championed for decades.
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“I am working on the assumption that in the future there will be no Jews in Gaza,” Sharon told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 7:49:18 pm)

:
I'd have prefered to have looked at her tits when they were worth looking at. Not now they are ugly sacks of mostly brackish water.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 8:02:02 pm)

Queenie:
Heruka:
offended? no. digusted at such a cheap ploy for attention, yes.

Decoy:
I wish the world was more about quality.

I agree with both these statements. I also think that it's this country puritinical and tightassed view of things like boobs that makes such "shocking" publicity stunts possible.

It's like when you're a kid and your brother's picking on you and your mom says, "if you don't react, he'll stop doing it". The same thing is true here. If everyone doesn't act all shocked and appalled by stupid stunts like this, people would stop doing them, and we'd be left with folks who have no choice but to resot to, as Decoy put it, quality to get our attention. But face it, we're all all-packaging, no-product culture. meh.
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 9:07:00 pm)

Queenie:
but this Eddie Izzard bit always makes me laugh!!

"Zingelbert Bembledack! Yingybert Dambleban! Zangelbert Bingledack! Wingelbert Humptyback! Slut Bunwalla!"

"What?!"

"All right, Kringelbert Fishtybuns! Steviebuns Bottrittrundle..."

"No, Gerry Dorsey, I like Gerry Dorsey!"

"No, we can't do it... Who we got? Zingelbert Bembledack, Tringelbert Wangledack, Slut Bunwalla, Klingybun Fistelvase, Dindlebert Zindledack, Gerry Dorsey, Engelbert Humptyback, Zengelbert Bingledack, Engelbert Humperdinck, Vingelbert Wingledanck."

"No, no, go back one. Go back one. "Engelbert Humperdinck." That's it."

(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 9:08:15 pm)

Queenie:
Wingelbert Humptyback is my favorite
(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 9:09:13 pm)

:
hehe

(Mon Feb 2, 2004 - 9:28:13 pm)