FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:20:44 PST 1997
a cool experiment, queenie, but i guess it didn't work. bummer... although i can just imagine how scary this place could be if everyone could post images onto it.... ugh!


FROM: Hank
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:20:42 PST 1997
Myk, I resent your calling into question the quality and authority of Hank's House of Hyperventilation. We are an accredited facility of the National Breathing Really Fast for a Long Time Institute.


FROM: L.
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:20:32 PST 1997
I'll be right back.


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:19:20 PST 1997


FROM: Queenie
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:17:17 PST 1997
Hmmm...interesting.


FROM: Queenie
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:17:00 PST 1997
Let's try this:


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:16:08 PST 1997
I don't have any idea, but I doubt it.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:14:45 PST 1997
Don't you hate that? You want it back but there is nothing you can do.


FROM: Queenie
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:12:24 PST 1997
I don't know HOW but the chat rooms on my and my husbands website (www.pomn.com) supports HTML. You can change the size of fonts and font colors and post photos. I'm trying to make it work there so I can try it here.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:08:58 PST 1997
As soon as I pressed the send button on that posting I regretted it! Tonight I will sleep and tomorrow I will be lucid. Hi queenie. Goodnight all.


FROM: CW
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:08:42 PST 1997
Hey Queenie. How exactly would that work? Thanks again for Gillian by the way.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:07:14 PST 1997
Which makes no sense at all except that my computer's time is four minutes faster than the message boards


FROM: Queenie
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:05:31 PST 1997
Does this message board support HTML??


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:05:17 PST 1997
You said enigmatic! Came in at 5:56. Thanks by the way.


FROM: Queenie
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:04:47 PST 1997
I am only me


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 10:02:02 PST 1997
Cushca sends a kiss to you Myk and asks you to be good. CW - was that in reply to my e:mail? Am I being totally stupid?!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:59:51 PST 1997
Eh?


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:58:44 PST 1997
bye sleepy! bye cushca!!! heh heh.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:56:45 PST 1997
Bye Sleepy - missed me by four minutes. Hmmm.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:54:43 PST 1997
I'm going home now. Bye everyone.


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:34:14 PST 1997
Oh yes they do! It's their most endearing quality.


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:33:57 PST 1997
just got back from the windy city, the windy city is mighty pretty, but it ain't got what we got


FROM: everyone knows it's..
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:26:19 PST 1997
..they talk a lot of wind!


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:24:52 PST 1997
Who among us claims to have dropped 40 tabs of acid and had to be put in a straight jacket for three years? Hey pug - what is that with the beer? I went from loving the heavy stuff, to regular pilsner, to light beer, and now I can barely drink that. I have to turn to vodka to settle my stomach. It's hard to admit but there seems nothing I can do about it. I think the beer has changed somehow. This huge upsurge in the popularity of micro brews has lead to a quality reduction in the barley and hops. Oh I don't know. There is a U-Brew type of thing here in Buffalo, but like I said, we are perilously close to Canada.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:23:06 PST 1997
i just got back from the breathwork pages, and i must say... though a bit too wrapped in cosmology for my tastes, it seems relatively safe! "Pregnant women, persons with cardiovascular problems, glaucoma, epilepsy, or an unresolved history of psychiatric hospitalization are advised to avoid this workshop." ...this seems like a reasonable precaution, so i must say that this doesn't seem as risky as i initially believed! of course, i would avoid breathwork establishments with names like "Hank's House of Hyperventilation".


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:22:18 PST 1997
and put the load right on me


FROM: jetbread
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:19:54 PST 1997
take aload for free..


FROM: jetbread
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:18:32 PST 1997
I hope Robyn keeps breathing.


FROM: Satan
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:18:21 PST 1997
You and willybeets can do it together.


FROM: Satan
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:17:36 PST 1997
Jetbreath: I encourage you to try this WITHOUT a qualified person a--isting you. Stand up near a ledge and hyperventilate until you get dizzy, then start spinning around as fast as you can.


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:17:11 PST 1997
take a breath, take a breath, take a breath, honey take it on me


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:16:24 PST 1997
http://www.holotropic.com/


FROM: jetbread
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:15:28 PST 1997
breathe.take a breather.breathe again.like that?


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:15:08 PST 1997
STANISLAV GROF is a psychiatrist with almost forty years of experience of research in psychotherapy and non-ordinary states of consciousness. His professional career includes seven years as Principal Investigator at the Psychiatric Research Institute in Prague, Czechoslovakia, seven years as a--istant Professor of Psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University and Chief of Psychiatric Research at the Maryland Psychiatric Research Center in Baltimore, Maryland, and fourteen years as Scholar-in-Residence at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California. He is one of the founders and chief theoreticians of transpersonal psychology and the Founding President of the International Transpersonal Association (ITA). Currently living in Mill Valley, California, he is teaching psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS), conducting training, writing, and lecturing all over the world. Among his publications are of over 100 articles and the books Realms of the Human Unconscious, LSD Psychotherapy, Beyond the Brain, The Human Encounter with Death (with Joan Halifax), The Adventure of Self-Discovery, The Holotropic Mind, Beyond Death, Books of the Dead, and The Stormy Search for the Self (the last two with Christina Grof). He also edited the books Ancient wisdom and Modern Science, Consciousness Evolution and Human Survival, and Spiritual Emergencies (with Christina Grof).


FROM: Satan
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:12:48 PST 1997
China Pug, are you Queenie?


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:11:59 PST 1997
here!


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:11:50 PST 1997
hear though: here thought. oops


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:11:26 PST 1997
Myk, did you go to the breathwork page? Jeez, this was just originally a comment about "Vibrating," and how I had discovered a sensation that perhaps would shed light on the song that one person hear though was about a dildo. I am not saying the song's about holotropic breathwork. I am just saying the song means more to me now that I have done hb.


FROM: Satan
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:09:16 PST 1997
I suppose Dr. Myk is gonna tell me to get my protein from red meat, too. That way, I can make sure and get all the steroids and pesticides and other chemicals streaming through Bessy's body at the same time, thus satisfying all the daily requirements.


FROM: China Pug again
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:07:26 PST 1997
Believe me, breath work as a mystical practice has been around as long as, if not longer, than beer...


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:06:13 PST 1997
At the risk of sounding pretentious, I prefer a good single malt scotch to beer anymore. Actually, the last few times I've had beer, I've gotten terrible indigestion.


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:04:48 PST 1997
Swilling beer is perilous. Holotropic breath work is a path to discover. What have you discovered with beer, besides the porcelain charms? By the way, I am a drinker too, but you're being a little too Myk for me today.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:03:33 PST 1997
hey, beer is our friend! a beer a day thins the blood just a touch and keeps heart attacks away! (or so they say).


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:02:47 PST 1997
http://www.breathwork.com/index.html. By the way, Myk, my partner, who introduced this to me, has been an RN with a Masters Degree for over 25 years. And she's a clinical hypnotherapist, nutritional consultant, and a cool person. I think she would have sensed any real health risks if there had been any.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 09:00:32 PST 1997
alright, the china pug may have a point, but causing brain misfunction from intentional hyperventilation still sounds perilous to me, "qualified" a--istance or not.


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:58:43 PST 1997
By the way, it's Grof, not Graff or Graf as I said before. I will search for 'net info and be back shortly...


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:58:22 PST 1997
Well London has the Seattle Coffee Company. That's very groovy.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:58:01 PST 1997
chocolate!? dogs can't eat chocolate! heh heh. that's cool, mooch. no, i haven't seen a U-Brew in the states yet, but give it time. my roommate enjoys brewing beers and ciders, and sometimes they're not even terrible!


FROM: Support Your Local Coffee Roasters, Don't Be A Lemming
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:56:59 PST 1997
Starbuck's actually sucks / it's mediocre coffee / Lowest common denominator / the Wal-Mart of the Coffee Generation / La-la-la-la


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:54:37 PST 1997
Myk: Are you a doctor or do you just play one on this message board? No more stress than a good long run. Of course if you've abused your body with chemicals and BEER for years on end, you might want to consult with a doctor first. Besides, I DID say to only try this with a qualified person. Look in any alternative therapy/self improvement authority and show me any negative feedback about Holotropic Breathing and I will carry your keg around for you, for a whole day.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:52:19 PST 1997
Hi m. Bye m.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:51:47 PST 1997
I happen to know that Blue loves a Starbuck's americano (with a small chocolate on the side).


FROM: m
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:51:08 PST 1997
Hi all,...Slept in!...gotta fly..hey Sleepy, Wax..Myk,I make ale at what we in Canada call a U-Brew..80 litres at a batch,..copper kettles, the whole bit..my brew partner and I have our own preference forour own recipe "UBIK" creme ale made with a bit of dark choc. malt as well, for a slightly darker body.we also add little Hallertauer hops for a slightly pilsener top edge. 2wk. process.lovely...do you have a similar thing in the states?..gotta go back ...later...


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:49:49 PST 1997
i hope you didn't really give Blue any coffee, mr wax! i don't think dogs react well to that sort of thing... though i once knew a dog that was an avid beer drinker.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:30:25 PST 1997
Ah. Something work related accomplished. It's a good feeling. Yes. Bound to be. I have absolutely never gone wrong with any Robyn related purchase.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:16:55 PST 1997
There's bound to something on there you'll like.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 08:10:11 PST 1997
Yes. I think it would make a fine purchase. Very pleasing.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:58:06 PST 1997
So, if I go to the record store and they don't have Underwater Moonlight or Pink Moon, I should buy the box set?


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:55:29 PST 1997
Two. It's a very good collection (and there's another nice picture of Matthew Seligman on the cover).


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:52:51 PST 1997
i'd heard of it, but i've never heard it. how many discs are in the box set?


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:48:36 PST 1997
I've been away, but now I'm back. Have you ever heard the Soft Boys "Live At The Portland Arms?" There are a couple of tracks on the box set.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:39:20 PST 1997
where did everyone go?


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:38:48 PST 1997
this is a test posting... my pc is wiggin' out.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:15:05 PST 1997
heh heh. neat bit about the GMT thing, mr wax. not geeky, but observant! i would have likely missed it, though i often pay attention to the time/date stamp, especially when someone goes on a posting stampede! "my wife and my cushca.... am i the only one that sees her?" giggle. no, i don't really have a wife. heh.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:11:04 PST 1997
Cushca liked Myk's comment. CW - I think the GMT thing is amazing. Just the one time. How did they know?!


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:07:25 PST 1997
(That was me) I feel awfully geeky for noticing such a boring little thing and getting so excited about it. I've got to get another job, out in the open. Lumberjack perhaps.


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:06:16 PST 1997
THE ROBYN HITCHOCK OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL MATCH-MAKER BOARD


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:05:26 PST 1997
Wow. They know where I am.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:04:48 PST 1997
"customary black skirt and tight jumper"? [furiously checking flight availability to heathrow] "a sight to behold"? [stuffing clothes and travel kit into bag] ...hold that thought, i gotta catch a cab to the airport!


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:03:48 PST 1997
Wow! Did you see that. The time just cmae over as GMT on you last post. That's so weird.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 15:02:10 GMT 1997
My last comment was supposed to get there before yours CW. No, Cushca's not going to the show. She likes Prodigy. There is no accounting for taste...


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:00:42 PST 1997
Now she's weeping with laughter...


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 07:00:17 PST 1997
Are you dragging Cushca to the show?


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:57:37 PST 1997
Well, let's see... She's not wearing her customary black skirt and tight jumper today, but is looking resplendant in black trousers and checked blouse - she is a sight to behold (she is happy for me to relay this information, I might add!).


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:54:11 PST 1997
No you weren't. Not really.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:53:27 PST 1997
i always melt when cushca's eyes light up.... heh heh. what is she wearing? (i'm kidding!)


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:42:31 PST 1997
It's on Thursday 20 November. I suppose the doors open at around 7.30 pm-ish. I must add that the venue isn't particularly lovely. However, Cushca's eyes are lighting up....


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:39:25 PST 1997
That always happens - I wonder where someone is and there he is right in front of me. Doh. Yes, the loom is lonely without her.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:38:02 PST 1997
when, EXACTLY, is that jazz cafe show. day of week, time, etc. ...i've some calculations to make!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:37:39 PST 1997
That Myk boy has been working too hard lately!


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:37:10 PST 1997
i bet she's happy! traveling between london and new york sure beats the hell out of foot-pedaling a spinning wheel! you may NEVER get her back to work on that thing!


FROM: CW
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:31:07 PST 1997
You made me laugh.


FROM: CW
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:30:41 PST 1997
Hey Myk. I know. I'm pining for that Jazz Cafe show, but what can you do?


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:30:40 PST 1997
Me or the song?! I just spoke to my boss in New York. I heard a police siren, so I knew she was really there. She sounded very happy.


FROM: CW
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:27:27 PST 1997
Made me laugh.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:27:02 PST 1997
I know that song much better. You're safe!


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:25:55 PST 1997
Oh, now he's playing Jewel for Sophia. This is an awsome song. Too many lyrics to transcribe. I'd get fired.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:22:30 PST 1997
Oh that's lovely. Thanks very much CW. I wonder if Robyn really did see him. Nick was indeed very tall. Sigh....


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:19:12 PST 1997
It's the least I can do Sleepy. Terrible recording on really awful speaker, but here's a good approximation: I saw Nick Drake at the corner of time and motion. I caught his eye and he caught mine. I said, "you're tall". He said, "No deeper than tomorrow's ocean". I saw Nick Drake and he was fine. And we're in bloom. Yes we're in bloom. I saw Nick Drake but we were carrying the ice(?) together. I saw his face beneath the glass. The natures(?) gone and all the strawberries of English weather. I saw Nick Drake, I saw him fly(?). And we're in bloom. Yeh we're in bloom. I saw Nick Drake, the habbits of a lifetime will lay you low into your grave. And when your gone, you take the whole world with you. I saw Nick Drake. I saw him wave.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:17:53 PST 1997
I get tired of London every now and then though. Ooh, a colleague of mine has been e:mailed by a secret admirer and no-one can trace him. Is someone playing a practical joke I wonder or is it a genuine declaration of love?


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:08:26 PST 1997
boy, i wish i could come to london to see that jazz cafe show. that would be terrific. i'm tired of this town!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:04:53 PST 1997
Oh thanks CW - you didn't have to. A sentence or two would be good.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 06:00:26 PST 1997
I'd love to. It's going to take me a while but I'll be back with those lyrics!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:59:37 PST 1997
Myk - I think it's sorted itself out now and the green area is still in tact.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:55:45 PST 1997
by the way, did they ever finish tearing apart that tube stop in westminster (can't remember what the stop's name is) on the piccadilly line? i bet that was a major headache for many folks.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:55:44 PST 1997
Oh! CW - tell me what the lyrics are. I want to hear it. This is a sad little computer.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:55:07 PST 1997
Hi Myk. CW - no, they don't even have a single out until next week. There will be an album next year though. Myk - thanks for the advice.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:53:47 PST 1997
Shhhh. I Saw Nick Drake is playin.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:52:55 PST 1997
good morning! hey, i can have a tape too, Jealous Wax! heh heh. i can't wait! sleepy: forget wembley, go do that film thing... hell, you already paid for it!


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:52:45 PST 1997
Do they have an album out?


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:43:16 PST 1997
Tim played again last night at the Jazz Cafe and I missed the show. I spent the evening in a Camden fleapit instead. I highly recommend The Montrose Avenue. It was one of those shows where you know you are witnessing greatness and you feel lightheaded.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:39:38 PST 1997
Soul Food Shopping List. Ummm. I cut and pasted that right from my Netsite window. Sorry. Cut it back maybe. You are looking for Tricia Halloran's Brave new World live recordings. It's a fifty minute show with Robyn and Tim playing a lot of new stuff.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:38:14 PST 1997
CW - you probably get up earlier than Myk so you can open yours first!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:37:16 PST 1997
Mornington Crescent is the stop before (or after) Camden tube station which has been closed for years.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:37:05 PST 1997
Hmmmm. I suppose that will be all right.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:36:32 PST 1997
Your chum Tim is singing on my computer.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:36:21 PST 1997
CW - I'll do copies for both of you and I'll send them at the same time, so there's no fighting. Is that OK?


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:36:06 PST 1997
What's Mornington Crescent?


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:36:05 PST 1997
Sleepy - I spoke to him once, but my friend has seen his "trouser snake" a few times.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:34:54 PST 1997
CW - Just tried it but it says Hey Dummy, You got the address wrong!!! Whatever that means.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:34:50 PST 1997
Coffee slowly working. Sleepy, my e-mail is still screwed up. Nothing is coming in from anyone. I'll let you know when it's working again. Please please please don't go and give the tape to Myk. I asked first.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:33:49 PST 1997
We've just chatted a few times.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:32:32 PST 1997
CW - No, I haven't but I will now. Why? Does Sleepy know the RH dude or something?


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:32:27 PST 1997
Good news about Mornington Crescent though eh?!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:31:32 PST 1997
I have no secret information I'm afraid. Robyn said it would open with 1974 the other day. I think Guildford will be on it as well. I really want to hear Jewels for Sophia right now. Morrissey - just be MTS.


FROM: Perry J. Aerosmith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:30:28 PST 1997
There, how's that?


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:29:38 PST 1997
Hey MTS, have you checked out http://www.kcrw.org/g/bnlive.html ?


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:27:37 PST 1997
it really is months away isn't it? First the live album from the Storefront movie is coming out. Ask Sleepy what's going to be on that one. Actually, it's my understanding she is sworn to secrecy.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:27:14 PST 1997
Er....Why did that just happen to my name? By the way, I'm really bored of writing this name now, I think I'll change it.


FROM: <Morrissey T. Smith>
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:25:53 PST 1997
Sleepy - IMPORTANT NEW MORNINGTON CRESCENT INFORMATION. Instead of being all boarded up and grey like normal, they have taken a small piece of boarding away and a part of a blue wall can be clearly seen. I will of course keep you posted.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:21:37 PST 1997
CW - Thank you , Sir, for the tracks and the answer to my drink dilemma. I get unneccesarily excited months before an album release date but please forgive me.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:18:21 PST 1997
I think, I saw Nick Drake and Don't Talk To Me About Gene Hackman are going to be. I'm just guessing.


FROM: alt
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:18:13 PST 1997
Fegmania rocks !!! who was the low life that had to say it sucks??


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:16:34 PST 1997
Apart from the opener Feels Like 1974, does anyone know what other tracks are on the new album?


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:16:15 PST 1997
Tequila


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:15:35 PST 1997
I didn't even notice a lyric was put out there. Let me look again... Not a remote clue, but that's no surprise. My eyes are in pain. Need coffee. Oh, by the way, I'm back in. I've released the hound and the coffee is burbling away very very slowly.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:12:34 PST 1997
Hooded, I share your grief. I too am paying the price of my friend becoming a year older. What is in that golden liquid that makes me soar so high yet fall so far?


FROM: hooded
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:09:01 PST 1997
oohh! a little slow this morning, how come every time you go out on a weekday and decide not to whoop it up, you wake up with a hangover anyway? went out with a friend (ironically also named hooded, its very confusing) and I'm up early with a screaming headache! daisy- very good i'm impressed. I would pursue your question more furvently if I wasn't mentally challanged right now. off to work, later all.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:06:34 PST 1997
CW - Thanks for the advice. I think anyone who wants Pat Benetar lyrics should be forced to have them. By the way, you're more than welcome to join the rendevous. Fake head must be worn!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:06:07 PST 1997
MTS - I heard There There a few hours ago on Gary Crowley's show.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:04:27 PST 1997
I just realised that the drummer who just left The Sundays played on Moss Elixer. He's Patrick Hannan who plays with Homer also. Homer are certainly getting a lot of airplay on Xfm.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:02:55 PST 1997
Oooh A secret rendevous. I'm jealous.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:02:04 PST 1997
Hey. Thanks for the sympathy Sleepy. What was I going to say? Oh yeh, that the Fegmania sight keeps promising that the archives will be back and they apparently had lyrics. Not much help I suppose. I had a friend who wanted the lyrics to a Pat Benetar album. he wrote the record company and they sent him a lyric sheet. It's worth a try. Looks like I have to cancel my trip to Iraq. Oh well.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 05:00:56 PST 1997
Deal!


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:58:57 PST 1997
Sleepy - You're going to the Jazz Cafe, I think we should meet there but wear false heads so as to keep our secret identities!


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:57:06 PST 1997
Er...yes. Interesting comment. Does anyone know of a web site that has lyrics to Robyn's songs? I want the lyrics to You & Oblivion.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:51:37 PST 1997
Obviously I was replying to MTS!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:50:17 PST 1997
It makes sense to me.


FROM:
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:49:33 PST 1997
Fegmania is one of the stupidest records ever


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:48:47 PST 1997
Did I explain the game OK?


FROM: Morrissey T.Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:47:38 PST 1997
Has anyone seen the REM chat room? They don't seem to have the love or warmth shown here so often. Hi Sleepy, just looked through the archives and yes, you're right, I love Take That and The Spice Girls and also Backstreet Boys. I played a game with a friend last night were we thought of a band and took it in turns to say the t-tle of one of their songs until one of us couldn't think of another one. Much to my despair, I won on Bon Jovi and Hall and Oates! Please send help!!!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:45:29 PST 1997
That is John and John, as opposed to Ween. Oh, I'll shut up...


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:42:23 PST 1997
Oh, I like They Might Be Giants. They Might Be Giants being dirty is quite an unpleasant thought though!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:40:56 PST 1997
Hey all. Oh, CW, I despair... Let's hope Blue likes coffee eh?


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:39:43 PST 1997
I'm very new to Ween but I really do like them a lot. I've no idea what to expect from their concert and I don't know what they look like. They're kind of like They Might Be Giants, but dirtier!!


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:35:30 PST 1997
Oooh. I like Ween. So seldom I actually recognize a band mentioned on this board.


FROM: Morrissey T. Smith
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:30:17 PST 1997
Good afternoon, all!!! I just woke up and I'm eating a samosa that's as hot as my pants. How is everyone today? Glad to hear The Sundays are not splitting. Off to see Ween tonight, hopefully they will actually play and not make my week a total disaster!!!


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Thu Nov 13 04:15:06 PST 1997
Good morning. I went into one building to make the coffee and then I stepped outside to thrwo something away and locked myself out and the dog and the coffee in and no one will be here to open the door for hours. Luckily I had the keys to the other building so here I am, the dog barking quietly in the distance. Mixed bag of luck that. I could really use the coffee. I could walk to the store... Na. I can stumble through this. Have I mentioned I saw U2 at Wembley? A horrible orange drink fight erupted in the stands. I was soaked with the stuff.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Thu Nov 13 02:39:36 PST 1997
Morning. Oooh, I'm so tired today. But I have four (fairly superficial) reasons to be happy:- 1) Robyn plays next Thursday, 2) The Sundays aren't splitting up, 3) The Montrose Avenue are magnificent and 4) Silver Sun are playing in December. I have a small dilemma - should I see Radiohead and Teenage Fan Club on Sunday at the soulless Wembley Arena or go see a film at the London Film Festival which is supposed to very good and for which I have already paid? Hum... Lyrics are too much today. I can barely open my eyes. Daisy Bomb - are you referring to the good Captain?


FROM: Daisy Bomb
DATE: Thu Nov 13 00:59:47 PST 1997
hooded- The Dust. Here's a slightly more difficult one: "And when you laugh/Amazing how the echoes fill the eaves" Clue: The person who actually sung it kept Our Hero in bread and butter and prawns during a period when he was rather disillusioned with the recording process.


FROM: Queenie
DATE: Wed Nov 12 22:15:57 PST 1997
Well my whiplash is improving so I can work on the computer again. Of course, now there's no one to talk to. :(


FROM: hooded
DATE: Wed Nov 12 21:09:54 PST 1997
hay cool, I have banned from the millers cave on the irc chat I inadvertantly (on purpose) violated the membership of millers cave. Go ahead they are all jerks, so please feel free to violate at will. Listening to You & Oblivion Later all


FROM: hooded
DATE: Wed Nov 12 20:40:19 PST 1997
Myk-longshot is only the hazlelnut brown ale so you probably had thet. Good stuff! My lyrical trivia anyone?


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 20:36:08 PST 1997
well, mooch, if you have the mp3 player working ok, you now have to go out and find website with mp3 files! (or so i hear). do a search on "mp3", and you'll find something good, i hope. PLEASE USE MP3 TECHNOLOGY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES, AND DELETE MP3 FILES AFTER TRIAL. [This message posted as a courtesy to Warner Bros. Music, a subsidiary of Time-Warner, a company with too much influence.]


FROM: m
DATE: Wed Nov 12 20:21:37 PST 1997
hello all,that massed gadgets thing is a gas..I downloaded MP3 today now what?? what is the deal with that thing?how do you use it??or do I smell a virus coming down the pipe...hey Decoy,Myk..discussing the shallow end of the gene pool??whats this about beer?..


FROM: i am not me
DATE: Wed Nov 12 19:35:29 PST 1997
Natural Selection, the intelligent over the stupid,theres goes my bloodline!har har har har har


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 19:21:21 PST 1997
by the way, decoy, it's good to hear from you! i trust life is treating you well. sorry about those bills. i can just see your 2 year old using "Leaves" as a chewtoy, just as mr wax suggests! my sister, a toddler at the time, once danced on one of dad's cherished records, scratching the hell outta one side. my father still brings this up, over a quarter century later, still harboring a hint of annoyance in his voice. ...don't let this happen to you, decoy: kids and music collections DON'T MIX. heh heh.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 19:15:01 PST 1997
because, my dear decoy, Natural Selection is a law that not only benefits the strong and quick, but the intelligent! i don't believe the action described below is an intelligent one, and so i believe that persons taking said action could possibly improve the gene pool, if just a bit. heh heh.


FROM: Some guy from Animal House
DATE: Wed Nov 12 18:43:12 PST 1997
My advice to you is to start drinking heavily


FROM: Decoy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 18:36:45 PST 1997
Myk, how does that jive with Darwin though?


FROM: Decoy <Bills@.500.noPlayoffs>
DATE: Wed Nov 12 18:35:35 PST 1997
I miss you guys. I don't know anything - insipid maliase. Work work work. 'Really shouldn't drink so much on top of it, eh?? I got a haircut today. Erased four months of chemical evidence. As Martha Stewart would say, "It's a good thing." http://eclipse.web-scene.com won't connect - just sits there - I really want it. CW - your Leaves is fine, not to worry - you can give it to me as a wedding party present - ha ha.


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 18:29:39 PST 1997
sounds like an action that would put dangerous stress on the body. oh well, i guess this is a novel way to thin the herd. if you must die, die humorously!


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Wed Nov 12 17:03:39 PST 1997
rOb: bet you m could find a holotropic or graf link on the 'net. I won't be responsible for your health, though. Basically, it's prolonged hyperventilation (really prolonged, like over an hour). But it should be "coached" by a qualified person, who will introduce you to things you will experience and talk about those things afterward. You should be lying down and very comfortable. Also, no perfumes or other environmental distractions (except music)--examply, I put on some "Carmex" right before the experience and ended up -- thanks to the intense cleansing of the lungs -- getting that scent in my mind in a overpowering and unpleasant way. Another good reason not to do it outside (the first being that there would probably be too much noise).


FROM: Willyarse
DATE: Wed Nov 12 16:11:26 PST 1997
the fixation.again... did you get the beer, I mean e:mail yet?


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 16:08:13 PST 1997
yeah, hood, we bought some longshot for our halloween party, though i'm not sure if we bought the brown ale. i recall enjoying it, that's for sure. as for "dark green energy", i remember playing the vinyl of it on the radio (ah, memories...), and it was a 4 song promo 12" single, but i can't recall which tunes were on it. might have been tacked on to the "radio storm" one, which i more clearly recall had "alright yeah" as a b-side. i was very surprised to see RH release "alright yeah" again so many years later.


FROM: hooded
DATE: Wed Nov 12 15:38:15 PST 1997
Sleepy- sorry I called you "him" in an earlier post it was a slip of the beer, I mean tongue. Hint to my lyrical trivia- Same Album - "they are over Norway and quite soon they'll be in range"


FROM: hooded
DATE: Wed Nov 12 15:32:49 PST 1997
Myk- Longshot Hazelnut Brown Ale won the '96 world homebrew contest and is now being brewed by the Boston Beer Co. (Sam Adams). Its a little sweeter than I like, not as smooth as a guiness, but overall it's 12 oz of pure heaven. CW- dark green energy is on my cd single of "ultra unbelieveable love." Sleepy- your question was good but I would have gotten it, I am well versed in the Soft Boys.


FROM: rOb.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 14:11:25 PST 1997
Hey, China....could you tell me how to do this breathing thing? Please? I promise not to do it alone....


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:57:00 PST 1997
heh heh mr wax. "all you need is beer" was perhaps the Beatles' most important lyrical statement, don't you think?


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:25:07 PST 1997
Very interesting. All's I do is drink.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:22:54 PST 1997
Sorry - did see your question imbedded in there. I guess the fixation. The first ew was for the need, the second was L and Joe. Or switch them the other way around.


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:20:18 PST 1997
In was an incredible experience. Fun yes; much much more too...


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:15:56 PST 1997
I always thought she was using a vibrator. I was never relly comfortable with thatt interpretion though. The real question is, was it fun?


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:09:54 PST 1997
the fixation or the need for tp?


FROM: China Pug
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:08:08 PST 1997
Vibrating was unclear to me until I tried Holotropic Breath Work -- a controlled-environment hyperventilation (don't try this alone!). It was developed in the sixties by Stanislav Graf in an effort to recreate the experience of LSD naturally. There are many facets to the experience, including a very distinct vibrating of the entire body--the kind of humming sensation on the entire surface of the skin that one feels after using a large appliance for too long (a mower, a chain saw, or some other shaking contraption). There are many mystical and occult breathing practices, of which this one no doubt is one; but Graff has been the modern developer. The song Vibrating immediately came to mind as I came out of the hour-and-a-half experience, which is accompanied by various musical selections all chosen to help you keep breathing quickly and deeply....


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:03:12 PST 1997
Filthy habbit that.


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 12:01:17 PST 1997
There goes Willybee with his arse fixation again...


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 11:29:11 PST 1997
Ew and ew.


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 11:16:22 PST 1997
My name is Cornholio. I need some tp for my bunghole! Yeah!


FROM: Myk Murphy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:45:24 PST 1997
hey joe, thanks for the mp3 heads-up. the furor has to do with the high quality that mp3 provides... no one cared when you could only get crappy sound on the internet. as for the delays in email, often your own company's servers are at fault, delaying the incoming and outgoing emails. they send it in bulk at set intervals, to minimize stress on the system. sorry i've missed most of today's foolishness. (nice "elaine", sleepy! heh heh.)


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:36:23 PST 1997
Cripes, maybe they are together. THAT'S who she's talking to!!!!!


FROM: Bob N.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:35:29 PST 1997
Maybe Joe and L should get together.


FROM: CW
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:31:56 PST 1997
Nothing WRONG with that. I keep missing entire words. Decoy still has my Five Leaves Left. I fear I will never get it back. His two year old daughter is probably chewing on it right now.


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:29:30 PST 1997
Ok. Ok. You make a good point, you really do. Joe - thanks for the url. Joe goes back in the archives, reads a random posting and then responds to it. Nothing with that.


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:24:16 PST 1997
CW, calm down: I honestly read that too, somewhere, about the cigarette papers. The writer stated that the expression was fitting because it refers to a dwindling supply, and a sort of "running out" of momentum...something Drake dealt with in terms of his depression until his unfortunate end. Perhaps our Brit friends can illuminate on this paper/leaves debate. Tp?


FROM: Joe
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:21:59 PST 1997
Myk - theres a mp3 site of live Floyd stuff called Massed Gadgets. Theres also a new site called Jugglers, with all of Syds bootlegs. I don't get it - is the furor about this due to the fact that one can get free music on the net, if its converted to be played on a web site. I just think its cool to be able to hear Syd playing blues from '74. Maybe one day it will be officially released, along with Rhamadan and the rest


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:21:52 PST 1997
I have absolutely no idea who that is.


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:04:00 PST 1997
Tp war! To war! To war we gotta go!


FROM: Joe
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:03:42 PST 1997
Does Maria McKee write any songs with her brother? anyone? Going once -


FROM: Chewing Wax
DATE: Wed Nov 12 10:01:10 PST 1997
It means there are five leaves left on the tree outside his bedroom window. Autumn. Duh.


FROM: Weevin'
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:55:40 PST 1997
Five Leaves Left refers to a pack of cigarette papers, I believe.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:52:14 PST 1997
Sounds reasonable. Thanks for that! I'm really going now. Bye.


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:49:51 PST 1997
Sleepy, my theory (and I do have one) is that L. is chatting with someone and through the voodoo of the internet and a ghost in the machine, all of her responses are being routed to this board. Either that or it's willybee. Occ-m's Razor would tend to slice on the side of the latter idea.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:46:04 PST 1997
Oh, Joe. Hello. I'm just about to go. I don't think I've ever talked to you real-time-ish before, have I? Nick Drake's hand - three flowers - for sure. Thanks for the info on the book - I can't wait to buy it. A troubled cure for a troubled mind. Over and out.


FROM: Joe
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:42:48 PST 1997
Apparently a Pink Moon is also another name for a harvest moon. So thats one riddle solved! Clare Brown by any chance? from Cambridge?


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:41:47 PST 1997
Byeeeeeee.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:40:48 PST 1997
Will someone please tell me WHO L is talking to?!


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:40:03 PST 1997
I've got to go in a minute. I'm going to see a fine country-rockish band called The Montrose Avenue tonight. CW - did you get the e:mail yet?! Bye all.


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:38:21 PST 1997
Tall, dark and handsome: Wish I could stay here and talk to you for endless hours, but I have go. A million kisses!xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo................Good bye.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:35:33 PST 1997
Get out?!!! (my pathetic Elaine impression)


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:33:53 PST 1997
Have to drive to LAX now to pick up my friends. YUK, that place is crazy. But, guess what. One of my friends is very good friends with the writers of Sienfield. So I,m going to a taping of their show this afternoon. Very fun.


FROM: Sleepy
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:29:26 PST 1997
I couldn't get into the site for quite a while then. Weevin' - I'm impressed! Robyn also says "one night, she hit me in a car park" instead of "one night, I hit her in a car park" in 52 Stations. There aren't 52 stations on the Northern Line either, but the number keeps changing. Will Mornington Crescent ever open again? CW - I don't know why I thought of Pink Moon, but I think you should have it if you like Five Leaves Left, which I know you do.


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:24:34 PST 1997
pleasedon'tgiveuponme youmeantheworldtome isn'tourloveworthasecondchance


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:21:35 PST 1997
I have some friends from New York staying with me for 5 days. I don;t know if I'll get a chance to post. I hope everything goes well at you "L" thing. I'm sure you will be great, as always!


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:20:40 PST 1997
You see? Now you ignore me.


FROM: Willybee
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:19:55 PST 1997
I'm back! Did you miss me little Satan?


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:18:51 PST 1997
PUT off, ! Now I have made a silly fool of myself.


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:17:47 PST 1997
We have off meeting long enough. It would be magical and eternal.


FROM: L.
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:14:05 PST 1997
I would smother you with a thousand kisses to let you know I care!


FROM:
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:08:44 PST 1997
Clare... is that Clean Steve's wife?


FROM: Weevin'
DATE: Wed Nov 12 09:06:40 PST 1997
Sleepy the Quizmaster: Thats "Only the stones remain." Did anybody already get that? Notice he used to say "Girls were ...violated..." and now he says "Girls ... ovulated..." He's changed slightly the way he sings about "getting blowjobs from the press" these days too (Queen Elvis)